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knnmbd
05-03 12:39 PM
GreeNever,
The only clarification I would make over Knnmbd's interpretation is that as long as you have a US master's degree or higher, the "3 years work experience in a related field" restriction will not apply. If you read section 201 carefully, you will see that the difference between items 1 and 2 is that item 1 refers to US advanced degree holders while item 2 refers to advanced degree holders (resumably non-US educated). The 3 year restriction only applies to those who fall into item #2.
So, if
a) you have a MS from a US university, you and your immediate family (spouse and minor children) will not be subject to the 3 years restriction and will be exempt from the Visa Cap
b) you have a masters or higher from an acredited non-US university, then the Visa Cap will not apply to you and your family, but you shouldd have worked in the US in a "related" field for 3 years.
My question to everyone:
Will folks in section 201 be required to get a Labor certification? If not, then this will provide relief to a lot of us stuck in the BECs.
Knowledgeable folks, please comment.
REMINDER: Any such bill is still MANY months away from seeing the light of day, if at all. BUT, favorable bills such as these give us hope.
GreeNever,
Thanks for the correction. U.S Master's in STEM means there is no need for the 3 years experience.
With regard to LC, there was some talk in PACE and TALENT of a blanket LC for U.S degree in STEM, but that seems to me missing here. But in the larger context of things, who really cares if with a U.S M.S degree you need to just go through PERM and then you are all set without the hassle( or should I say torture) of the retrogression. This is a �WIN WIN� situation for a lot of people if SKIL goes through.
There is no surprise as to why the Advance degree + 3 years (or no 3 years required in case the advance degree is from a U.S university) clause has found its way into PACE, TALENT, SKIL and was not to mention the failed CIR bill. The bottom line is that there is a sudden urgency to reintroduce the charm of pursuing higher education in the U.S. This benefits the U.S in many ways; universities get more international students paying out of state tuition (good for them specially b�cos the war effort has sucked all resources from educational institutions) and rekindle the brain drain from India and China in the form of researchers and engineers who pursue advance degrees and remain to work in the U.S( it will be surprising if there is no one looking at the booming economies of Asian countries mainly due to number of graduation engineers). So it�s a winning situation for both the U.S to attract smart people, make them spend a �lot� of money in paying tuition in U.S schools and hey what the hell give them a GC to live and work here permanently instead of them heading back home to do great things there.
It works for every one so that�s just great.
The only clarification I would make over Knnmbd's interpretation is that as long as you have a US master's degree or higher, the "3 years work experience in a related field" restriction will not apply. If you read section 201 carefully, you will see that the difference between items 1 and 2 is that item 1 refers to US advanced degree holders while item 2 refers to advanced degree holders (resumably non-US educated). The 3 year restriction only applies to those who fall into item #2.
So, if
a) you have a MS from a US university, you and your immediate family (spouse and minor children) will not be subject to the 3 years restriction and will be exempt from the Visa Cap
b) you have a masters or higher from an acredited non-US university, then the Visa Cap will not apply to you and your family, but you shouldd have worked in the US in a "related" field for 3 years.
My question to everyone:
Will folks in section 201 be required to get a Labor certification? If not, then this will provide relief to a lot of us stuck in the BECs.
Knowledgeable folks, please comment.
REMINDER: Any such bill is still MANY months away from seeing the light of day, if at all. BUT, favorable bills such as these give us hope.
GreeNever,
Thanks for the correction. U.S Master's in STEM means there is no need for the 3 years experience.
With regard to LC, there was some talk in PACE and TALENT of a blanket LC for U.S degree in STEM, but that seems to me missing here. But in the larger context of things, who really cares if with a U.S M.S degree you need to just go through PERM and then you are all set without the hassle( or should I say torture) of the retrogression. This is a �WIN WIN� situation for a lot of people if SKIL goes through.
There is no surprise as to why the Advance degree + 3 years (or no 3 years required in case the advance degree is from a U.S university) clause has found its way into PACE, TALENT, SKIL and was not to mention the failed CIR bill. The bottom line is that there is a sudden urgency to reintroduce the charm of pursuing higher education in the U.S. This benefits the U.S in many ways; universities get more international students paying out of state tuition (good for them specially b�cos the war effort has sucked all resources from educational institutions) and rekindle the brain drain from India and China in the form of researchers and engineers who pursue advance degrees and remain to work in the U.S( it will be surprising if there is no one looking at the booming economies of Asian countries mainly due to number of graduation engineers). So it�s a winning situation for both the U.S to attract smart people, make them spend a �lot� of money in paying tuition in U.S schools and hey what the hell give them a GC to live and work here permanently instead of them heading back home to do great things there.
It works for every one so that�s just great.
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senthil1
12-10 11:22 PM
This could be one side of story. There were other posts which was mentioning about some fake resumes given by some Indian consultancy companies. So all those are isolated cases and we cannot take into account. I am seeing lot of hard working Americans and Indians as well. Also a family person with 2 kids cannot spend 12 or 16 hours per day compared to Bachlors(Most of the Bachlors who are spending 12 to 16 hours are H1b persons). If assesment is done based on that then that does not make any sense. Then do you thinkyou need to fire more than 35 year Old people and recruit 25 year people That is not American way. This country for long time Top rankholders as well as school dropouts also could survive and Lead a decent quality of life. I knew lot of Indians most of them gc holders and some H1b also those who were just average in skills had tough time in getting job between 2000 to 2004 because of more number of H1B people and also economy was bad. So there is no surprise some Americans also might have similar situation. But past 2 years everybody I knew were able to get job and survive well. This is because of economy and also because of limited H1b. But Corporations are asking too much h1b(unlimited by 20% automatic increase every year and exemption for MS people). Certainly that will kill the demand in job market and bring down the rates. I think H1B increase should be compromise between demand and supply. Otherwise there is going to be huge opposition. Congress cannot only favor Business. But as a Senator they have to take care of all groups of people. There may be a possiblity that H1b increase may happen but EB relief may not happen not that much strong lobbey from Business compared to H1B. American companies lie Micosoft, Intel culd not get H1B people because Indian consultancy companies grabbed all the H1bs in first few weeks of April and May not because of numbers. So that is a differentind of problem
Beleive it or not I found this posting in http://www.steinreport.com/
My 8 selfish American colleagues almost costed our company a $1.8 million project, simply because they could not cancel their preplanned trip to Bahamas. They went on their trip despite being warned 8 months in advance by our boss about a possible tough period during the critical design review of the project by the customer during the month of December.
My 5 hardworking H1B employees helped us out with the project resource planning,allocation layouts, financial statements, project planning and estimation analysis. 3 of them cancelled their trip to their home country just to save our business.
My boss is absolutely incensed and is going to fire these workers once they come back from their vacation.
Agreed that they are not expected to work more than 40 hours per week but during tough times their should be a certain sense of committment and solidarity towards your employer which was clearly lacking in my American colleagues.
According to my boss the current generation of American college graduates is the laziest he has ever seen and clearly ill equipped to handle tough job assignments during a time of crisis. He is lobbying very hard to get the SKIL bill passed and increase access for American businesses to global talent.
Beleive it or not I found this posting in http://www.steinreport.com/
My 8 selfish American colleagues almost costed our company a $1.8 million project, simply because they could not cancel their preplanned trip to Bahamas. They went on their trip despite being warned 8 months in advance by our boss about a possible tough period during the critical design review of the project by the customer during the month of December.
My 5 hardworking H1B employees helped us out with the project resource planning,allocation layouts, financial statements, project planning and estimation analysis. 3 of them cancelled their trip to their home country just to save our business.
My boss is absolutely incensed and is going to fire these workers once they come back from their vacation.
Agreed that they are not expected to work more than 40 hours per week but during tough times their should be a certain sense of committment and solidarity towards your employer which was clearly lacking in my American colleagues.
According to my boss the current generation of American college graduates is the laziest he has ever seen and clearly ill equipped to handle tough job assignments during a time of crisis. He is lobbying very hard to get the SKIL bill passed and increase access for American businesses to global talent.
jthomas
12-15 11:24 PM
I had been in US for 6 years and has a PD of October 2006, that means i have to wait a long time to get my GC. but i got my back up plans prepared. It tends to irriate me but the only way to solve is to get involved in some kind of activity. I would suggest get involved in IV. Atleast you will feel much better that you are helping a community that lead you to get your GC soon.
Days will pass soon. In fact your PD is 2001. not like many others 2006 and 2007
Days will pass soon. In fact your PD is 2001. not like many others 2006 and 2007
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subdhar
08-23 12:06 PM
Looks like there are no approvals from TSC .....from last two weeks..
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anzerraja
07-20 12:23 AM
Thanks Vj Verma !!!
count me in for a 100 as well.
count me in for a 100 as well.
GCneeded
05-23 01:04 PM
Sent Email to all 10 senators + 2 senators from CA
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Prashant
07-03 12:00 PM
Guyz what flowers are u sending lets keep it uniform ... l
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SKK2004
08-25 04:35 PM
Being out of the backlog elimination center and waiting in this line since 2004, trust me when I say this circus isn't new to me :)!
your are very welcome.
Chill, relax and live everyday ( this USCIS circus is no fun).
your are very welcome.
Chill, relax and live everyday ( this USCIS circus is no fun).
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Roger Binny
05-09 07:45 PM
On what basis the law suite will be ? i guess they we are not entitled to get GC's, its a privilege but not a right, i agree this whole GC crap is costing our families in all forms, but still, the idea of law suit doesn't have merit.
Anything to do with EB immigration i mean even if administration is convinced to do some thing +ve, financial market and job market has to continue with +ve development atleast for few months, other wise there will be heck of outcry by the natives.
Mean while, best thing is some one coming out with unused visa numbers math to claim them plus some convincing arguments about encouraging or supporting legal immigration, because all these EB immigrants here are paying taxes atleast half a decade to decade long and living legally as well helping america continue as a leader in technology.
Rally's raising mexican flags costed them a lot by getting plenty of -ve attention even from immigation moderates, than doing any favor. Going squarely against them by using their own law will give a powerful tool to simply crush us in a different way,whichever country we may live in, it is never a right idea.
Any big initiatives during the financial turmoil simply wont yeild any positive result, this may be just a common sense,as well it is also understandable that no sensible politician will be willing to help immigrants(foreigners),by poking their own people in wrong way when the unemployment is close to historic range.
Yes i'm living in this country for almost a decade and waiting in EB3 queue, this retrogession is nothing different than not getting GC when the dates were current, both are same, only difference is we wont hope when it is purely retrogressed, end result is same.
Sorry for my poor english.
Anything to do with EB immigration i mean even if administration is convinced to do some thing +ve, financial market and job market has to continue with +ve development atleast for few months, other wise there will be heck of outcry by the natives.
Mean while, best thing is some one coming out with unused visa numbers math to claim them plus some convincing arguments about encouraging or supporting legal immigration, because all these EB immigrants here are paying taxes atleast half a decade to decade long and living legally as well helping america continue as a leader in technology.
Rally's raising mexican flags costed them a lot by getting plenty of -ve attention even from immigation moderates, than doing any favor. Going squarely against them by using their own law will give a powerful tool to simply crush us in a different way,whichever country we may live in, it is never a right idea.
Any big initiatives during the financial turmoil simply wont yeild any positive result, this may be just a common sense,as well it is also understandable that no sensible politician will be willing to help immigrants(foreigners),by poking their own people in wrong way when the unemployment is close to historic range.
Yes i'm living in this country for almost a decade and waiting in EB3 queue, this retrogession is nothing different than not getting GC when the dates were current, both are same, only difference is we wont hope when it is purely retrogressed, end result is same.
Sorry for my poor english.
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ndbhatt
01-29 08:48 PM
Hi
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
Please consult immigration attorney.
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
Please consult immigration attorney.
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MeraNaamJoker
08-21 10:48 AM
I think it is around 13 or 14...if they are under that, USCIS only takes a thumb print
I don't think there is a specific age where they will taken finger prints. Read my story.
My 15 yr old was the first to receive the notice. She was not in US at that time. I called the USCIS and informed them about this. They said they will postpone the appointment. But the postponement was only for 2 weeks. With the next notice I went to the local office. The security officer gave me a print out stating that I visited there for this reason. AND ACCORDING TO THAT NOTICE, FINGER PRINTING CAN BE DONE WITHIN 64 DAYS FROM THE ORIGINAL NOTICE. My child came back to US in 60 days and I took her to the local office walk in date. He got finger printed.
The very next week my 9 yr old got the notice. I took another appointment and next day I got a second finer printing notice for my elder one again. I took both of them to the local office and explained the situation. For my second child they did the finger printing and for my elder, they made a stamp on to the latest notice which was not at all clear.
Me and wife was never requested for a second finger printing. We all just got GREENED on August 6th.
I don't think there is a specific age where they will taken finger prints. Read my story.
My 15 yr old was the first to receive the notice. She was not in US at that time. I called the USCIS and informed them about this. They said they will postpone the appointment. But the postponement was only for 2 weeks. With the next notice I went to the local office. The security officer gave me a print out stating that I visited there for this reason. AND ACCORDING TO THAT NOTICE, FINGER PRINTING CAN BE DONE WITHIN 64 DAYS FROM THE ORIGINAL NOTICE. My child came back to US in 60 days and I took her to the local office walk in date. He got finger printed.
The very next week my 9 yr old got the notice. I took another appointment and next day I got a second finer printing notice for my elder one again. I took both of them to the local office and explained the situation. For my second child they did the finger printing and for my elder, they made a stamp on to the latest notice which was not at all clear.
Me and wife was never requested for a second finger printing. We all just got GREENED on August 6th.
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rdehar
10-08 02:48 PM
This should be #1 priority of IV.
People have been waiting for their GCs since 2001, 2002 or 2003. My PD is 2004, and I absolutely want everyone with PD before me to get GC before me.
People who are opposing this idea are used to cutting lines -- most of them look like '06 and '07 wannabes ...
People have been waiting for their GCs since 2001, 2002 or 2003. My PD is 2004, and I absolutely want everyone with PD before me to get GC before me.
People who are opposing this idea are used to cutting lines -- most of them look like '06 and '07 wannabes ...
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nixstor
07-07 10:37 PM
That's the reason I said if we at least get 1000 members then we can ask core members and get their help. members should seriously think if they can make it before they saying yes.. I think even Friday option works as member can take long weekend and spend weekend in DC. We will also get to know all IV members.
What do you say?
I recommend a Monday to a Friday. Most of the media/office folks will take friday off as well like you and me. Media will be fresh on monday and people will get good E fares to fly out into DC on Saturday and fly out on Monday night/Tuesday early morning (if at all some one comes out of town). Also forget the 1000 number. We can have a good impact if we have 300+ members and families. When you put a poll out there, have 2 options for sure
a) I will come to DC on any day at any cost to attend this rally.
b) I want to come but I dont know how it will work out, when the day comes.
What do you say?
I recommend a Monday to a Friday. Most of the media/office folks will take friday off as well like you and me. Media will be fresh on monday and people will get good E fares to fly out into DC on Saturday and fly out on Monday night/Tuesday early morning (if at all some one comes out of town). Also forget the 1000 number. We can have a good impact if we have 300+ members and families. When you put a poll out there, have 2 options for sure
a) I will come to DC on any day at any cost to attend this rally.
b) I want to come but I dont know how it will work out, when the day comes.
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05-09 09:35 PM
Kshitij,
Excellent letter. Thanks for sending it.
I am also going to sent a similar letter to WhiteHouse. But I am very certain it might not reach the intended people, what harm will it cause in trying.
Others..please let us all write letters, if more people write, someone will take notice.
Thanks.
Excellent letter. Thanks for sending it.
I am also going to sent a similar letter to WhiteHouse. But I am very certain it might not reach the intended people, what harm will it cause in trying.
Others..please let us all write letters, if more people write, someone will take notice.
Thanks.
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sweet_jungle
11-07 12:17 PM
Hello All,
Also, can the person who wrote to the obudsman post the e-mail address and format of what he/she wrote? This would make it easier for those of us who would also like to send an e-mail.
Thanks.
i am pasting the format. just higlight the receipt date in all cases. no need of metioning notice dat. it should not be counted at all.
Dear Mr. Prakash ,
My name is xxxxxx and I am currently working at xxxxx as xxxx.
My I-485 was filed on July 2,2007 as an employment based application. My wife, xxxxxx, application was filed as a derivative applicant. It has been over 4 months and I have not yet got an apointment for finger printing. I called up USCIS and got a response from Nebraska Service center, where my application is currently pending, that my case is waiting for an opening at local ASC.
We, residents of Bay Area, are suffering a lot from fingerprinting backlog, due to presence of few ASCs.
Also, my case was receipted at CSC and transferred back to NSC. Such cases are taking unusually longer for FP appointments. This is quite frustrating as there are other people directly receipted at NSC in August who have got fingerpinting.
I would greatly appreciate if you could take steps to speed up the process of fingerpinting appointments.
My details:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
My wife's details:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks a lot for your time
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Also, can the person who wrote to the obudsman post the e-mail address and format of what he/she wrote? This would make it easier for those of us who would also like to send an e-mail.
Thanks.
i am pasting the format. just higlight the receipt date in all cases. no need of metioning notice dat. it should not be counted at all.
Dear Mr. Prakash ,
My name is xxxxxx and I am currently working at xxxxx as xxxx.
My I-485 was filed on July 2,2007 as an employment based application. My wife, xxxxxx, application was filed as a derivative applicant. It has been over 4 months and I have not yet got an apointment for finger printing. I called up USCIS and got a response from Nebraska Service center, where my application is currently pending, that my case is waiting for an opening at local ASC.
We, residents of Bay Area, are suffering a lot from fingerprinting backlog, due to presence of few ASCs.
Also, my case was receipted at CSC and transferred back to NSC. Such cases are taking unusually longer for FP appointments. This is quite frustrating as there are other people directly receipted at NSC in August who have got fingerpinting.
I would greatly appreciate if you could take steps to speed up the process of fingerpinting appointments.
My details:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
My wife's details:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks a lot for your time
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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apahilaj
08-08 10:04 AM
Congrats!
Usually there will be another message "Notice welcoming permanrent resident sent" . Then, after a few days there will be "Approval notice sent" , the physical approval notice goes to your attorney. You should receive the physical card within 7-10 days.
Thanks.
Actually i am in the same exact position as the OP and was wondering after approximately how many days, do we receive an approval notice sent email?
I got Notice welcoming new PR email on 8/5 and nothing after that.
Thanks and Good luck to all!
Usually there will be another message "Notice welcoming permanrent resident sent" . Then, after a few days there will be "Approval notice sent" , the physical approval notice goes to your attorney. You should receive the physical card within 7-10 days.
Thanks.
Actually i am in the same exact position as the OP and was wondering after approximately how many days, do we receive an approval notice sent email?
I got Notice welcoming new PR email on 8/5 and nothing after that.
Thanks and Good luck to all!
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heathere3
09-04 10:05 AM
I received my receipts from the lawyer this morning. July 2nd applicaiton to NSC, transfered to TSC, labour approved TSC in Aug 2006.
Heather
EB-3 ROW
PD: Aug 2006
RD: July 2, 2007
ND: Aug. 24, 2007
EAD: ??
AP ??
Heather
EB-3 ROW
PD: Aug 2006
RD: July 2, 2007
ND: Aug. 24, 2007
EAD: ??
AP ??
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 04:32 PM
I never believed the polls either. Go ahead and research how many pro CIR candidates have experienced decrease in popularity so far, how many cities have initiated ordinances against illegal immigration, how many $ was invested in lobbying senators without much success, how many anti CIR/amnesty calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls. If you do that, you may be shocked.
Guys,
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
Guys,
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
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tonyHK12
11-18 01:50 PM
I will donate 100 dollars if they make any changes in DREAM Act wrt to Employment based immigration.
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
If you mean IV and are waiting for results to support, consider that we have hired a Lobby in DC and are spending a lot of money in campaigns.
we cannot just give them an IOU and say, we'll pay you later and only if you succeed.
No business works like that. we don't have a charge card to dispute transactions.
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
If you mean IV and are waiting for results to support, consider that we have hired a Lobby in DC and are spending a lot of money in campaigns.
we cannot just give them an IOU and say, we'll pay you later and only if you succeed.
No business works like that. we don't have a charge card to dispute transactions.
fall2004us
08-13 08:14 PM
Here is my update:
EB2 - India
PD - Sep/2006
I 140 approved - Dec 2006
I 485 Date received July 2nd 2007
RD - checks were cashed (date - July 30, 2007)
FP - Got a mail from USCIS regarding finger printing (scheduled - August 29,2007)
So far no receipt by mail, application is at Nebraska.
EB2 - India
PD - Sep/2006
I 140 approved - Dec 2006
I 485 Date received July 2nd 2007
RD - checks were cashed (date - July 30, 2007)
FP - Got a mail from USCIS regarding finger printing (scheduled - August 29,2007)
So far no receipt by mail, application is at Nebraska.
BayBoy
11-22 06:05 AM
Hi Mehul
Heart breaking,Miracle will happen any time.My personal advice-Please get second opinion from Adyar Chennai cancer Institute.
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Heart breaking,Miracle will happen any time.My personal advice-Please get second opinion from Adyar Chennai cancer Institute.
http://www.cancerinstitutewia.org
Gandhi Nagar,East Canal Bank Road
Adyar, Chennai, 600020
+91 44 22350131
+91 44 24911526
+91 44 42054405
+91 44 22350241
Fax : 91-44-24912085
Gob Bless you.
Rajagopalan
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